What is the best tif success story in Independence?

What is the most succesful tif project in Independence?

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I was just reading how 48 states are having to readjust their revenue estimates down. How will falling revenues effect the tif projects?

Revenues don't effect a TIF, because TIF's are structured to function in regard to property values.
However, there is an animal in Missouri called a Super TIF, and that kicks state sales taxes back into a TIF. The failed Lakeside TIF on Noland Road has Super TIF status. If state revenues are down, they are less likely to approve new Super TIFs.
 
TIF do effect revenues though. Vacant buildings in a TIF cause the property values to decrease. Unbuilt areas of a TIF, such as the Bass Pro SHops project, don't generate any increase in property value for the TIF. That often means there ins't enough revenue generated by the TIF, and if the city fronted the bonds for the project (which is usuallly the case in Independence) the city is still liable for those bond payments. So they have to take money out of the general fund to cover the liability.
 
Basically, the way a TIF works is that a property generates a certain amount of taxes before it is developed or improved. A developer builds a brand new shiny building on the property and the property value goes up, generating more taxes. The property owner continues to pay the full amount of the property taxes on that improved property. What a TIF does though, is take the newly generated taxes from the improvements (or the increment) and allow the developer to then use that money to build roads, sewers, electric lines and other infrastructure that a project needs, or any other use they can get the city to approve. Usually a city issues bonds right away though, so the developer doesn't have to wait for the money to accumulate throught tax collection, and can then get started on the project right away. Then the city takes the increment to pay off the bonds.
 

Bolger Square was a highly successful TIF project.
The Crossroads was also successful.
Eastland Center (where the arena is being built) is also generating money and not losing any, and it's not even completely built out yet.
Hartman Heritage (Hilton Garden Inn, World Martket, etc...) is on the bubble. It lost a few anchor tenants and started out over budget from an infrastructure standpoint - thanks to huge cost overruns related to the bridge on Jackson Drive - but appears as though it has a chance to be successful in the long run.
All that said, there are also several TIF failures, costing city taxpayers millions.
Ken McClain's TIF near Noland and 23rd is a dismal failure. He tore down tax paying businesses for that project, using eminent domain granted by the City Council, and then didn't deliver anything.
The Bass Pro Shops TIF is bleeding money like a seive.
The TIF east of TriCity at Little Blue Parkway and I-70 is floundering, but that could just be due to its poor timing, getting started right before the recession.

Just because a property was not generating much tax without a TIF does not mean it would never be developed.  And with the excess of vacant land it doesn't mean that particular development could not go somewhere else and pay the full taxes.  It also doesn't mean "new revenue" because the store could be siphoning off sales from an existing business that pays taxes.  These are all questions that are almost impossible to quantify, hence the fallacy of TIFs. 

PensivePete,
What strategic moves should happen at this point?  I take it you are the average citizen of Independence? What would you like to see happen where you live?

Well, I'd like to see some creativity at the Bass Pro Shops site, and see it quickly. But so far their only answer has build yet another hotel and to swipe Hobby Lobby from another area of the city.
I read about a development in Kansas that is building an aquarium, to create a stir that will attract people, and therefore retail.
Basically, it would be nice if they'd start by admiting there is a problem at the BP site and open the door to suggestions from citizens on what types of facilities they would support there. It's obvious the developer has no ideas of its own right now.
If I had to suggest something, I'd say build stores that will be attractive to the families who bring their kids to Bass Pro Shops to look at all the animal exhibits. How about a Culver's or other type of custard/ice cream shop? How about a Dave & Buster's? How about an indoor go-cart track and mini-golf facility? Put a goofy T-shirt shop in there that sells Independence souveniers. How about a candy store? Basically, I'd turn the whole area into a giant retail related playground for families.
 

PensivePete
Those are darn good ideas, you need to throw your creativity and vision at the city authorities.  You could change the destiny of many things. Is there a think tank so to speak, where the people can give ideas?  You seem pretty much like a fun person whose ideas from a regular citizen might help the city.  Have you ever held an office or been on a committee for the government? You know ideas and imput from individuals always is a good idea, do you ever talk to those people in office?

Sam's club came from KC and joined Walmart at, I believe its called crosseoads? could be wrong about the name.HQ was there first and went bellyup. Sam's Club saved the day. Hobby Lobby is leaving KC and relocating to the BassPro site.

 Thanks, I forgot about Sam's Club.

I'm not familiar with all the TIF's in Indep, but it seem I remember reading the Bolger Square paid off ahead of schedule  and i think it was a greenfield site prior to development so the added property/sales tax generated would show a large net increase in revenues. I don't know if any businesses in that development were just relocated from another place in the city, but I don't think so.

To answer the relocation question - Office Depot moved from 39th and Noland, and Best Buy moved from 40 and Noland. JC Penny moved from KCMO into Independence, though the Blue Ridge store was closed for a couple of years before that really happened.

With Bolger Square, I think the only store of the development that closed was Garden Ridge, but it has since been replaced by the aformentioned JC Penny.

The Commons is on track to being a success as well. Even though two of the major tenants failed, they've since been replaced by Best Buy Office Max and is constantly busy on both the Movie Theater and Kohl's ends.

Hartman Heritage Center (Jackson Drive, between 39th St and Little Blue Parkway) had it's ups and downs. Ultimate Electronics was the first to fail, but was replaced by a K&G clothing store. The former Linens and Things and the former Stein Mart both sit empty currently, but both have the advantage of a good location (I-70 visibility) so with the upswing in the economy that has began, they may be leased within the next 3 years.

Eastland Center (located between 40 Highway and I-70, and between Little Blue Parkway and 291 Highway) is probably the worst case scenario of all the TIF projects in that area. There's the CompUSA that sits vacant after several years, a number of offices and retail space that sit vacant after being newly constructed, and still undeveloped (but planned) space within it's area. While it does have Lowes, CarMax, Cosco, and the Arena going for it (though others would beg to differ on the Arena), there are things going against it at this point.

The Falls (Bass Pro) is one that the concept was good enough - a Bass Pro Shop to rival the one down in Springfield - but the timing on execution is what's hurting it right now. While I do see it succeeding (have you ever driven by Bass Pro and not seen it overly busy on a weekend yet?) I do think it's going to take a little longer for everything to go in than originally planned.

Home Depot was a TIF Project as well. A Schnucks was supposed to go in next to it. While the Home Depot and Cracker Barrel are positives there, the fact that the grocery store never went in is it's failing. Not to say it's going to fail, as Home Depot is doing well enough on it's own.

Perhaps the epic fail of all TIF projects is the one that you don't notice. Several years ago, there was a push for the Lakeside Shopping Center on Noland Road. This was to go in where Chuck's Trux and Winsteads, along with several other thriving businesses, were located. The demolition went fine. In fact, the only building I think was slated to be knocked down and wasn't, was the old Taco Bell that is now a chinese place (if it's still open). Luckily for the city, the developer is playing off the TIF himself even though he's not required to. But yeah, Lakeside shows what happens when TIFs fall through due not having all your ducks in a row.

Watch dog, you seem very knowlegable of things, what is your educated guess on how Independence is doing as other cities in the say Midwest with the current economic situation?

The area around Independence Center is probably doing alright, as it's constantly busy on the weekends. The rest of Independence, in terms of retail, is probably faring well in some areas (Noland Road, Independence Square) but not as strong as it could be in others (Englewood, Fairmount, and the greater majority of 24 Highway). I'm only basing this on taking a drive throughout the city on the weekends and looking at parking lots and empty storefronts, so it's totally unscientific. However, it doesn't mean that areas I think aren't performing as well as they could are actually performing better, and areas that look like there's no recession aren't floundering.

Independence Center area is always quite busy to me.  What do you think could change the economic area for those mentioned areas that are not doing as well? Do you know of any plans to bring something to it?  I have always wanted something that was a draw to those areas for the people living in there?  Is the Eastern Independence area a hub which support our city's ecomony?

 I saw something about an arts district for Englewood, which I think would be a boost for the area considering the old theater located there. Fairmount just needs someone with a strong vision to come in and rebuild the insides of some of those buildings - Ken McClain is the first person that comes to mind, because of the fact that (love him or hate him, you can't deny this) his redevelopment of the Square is what saved that area as a retail district, and I know he could do for Fairmount what he did for the Square, but not on as large (and high-end in some cases) of scale.
 
24 Highway's biggest problem is just lack of interest in the area from developers. I'm really not sure what could help at this point.

Thanks Watch dog.

 Best Buy and Office Max. Apparently the edit function doesn't like my input anymore :|