Election Dates
Submitted by civil on July 15, 2009 - 11:55am
There has been a lot of grousing on this blog about the City of Independence calling for an election on August 4, 2009, instead of later when there are more items on the ballot. Does anybody know when that may be? The next election date on the Missouri calendar is November 3, 2009 and I know of no planned elections for that date, so it would seem an election in Independence on that date would also be a single item ballot. Anybody know anything different?
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Looks like the school bond issue may be on the November ballot:
http://www.examiner.net/news/x488829678/Fourth-high-school-bond-issue-ga...
This examiner article was published July 8 and the bond issue being discussed isn't a certainty at this time. It takes about three months to get an issue on the ballot so the school district will need to act by August 4. The city, having no way of knowing this was coming, put their proposal in gear the 18 of May. Too bad the two political subdivisions don't talk to each other, but we are playing an only if game. Why? The city isn't going to cancel the election. The school district may not even have one. So rather than deal with hypotheticals spend your energy deciding how you will vote on August 4, three weeks from now.All the rhetoric about termination date, and its too much money, and don't trust the city to use it properly is wasted breath at this stage. The vote comes down to two realities. One, you want additional police and will pay for them and two you want the police but you don't want to pay for them. There may be a third: you don't want police and you sure don't want the tax.
I think you got whipped with your own stick on this one, Captain, read the context of this blog you started
Civil, Would the City and School district shared in the expense of putting this on the 11/03/09 balot? And if the school is a single issue vote will the School pay $192000 in voting expenses(I think that's the figure being kicked around for the Aug sales tax) for thew Nov election?
Brats me, but it seems only right doesn't it.
Yea, the school boundaries don't necessarily follow city limit boundaries. You'd probably have to know all the voting precincts in the School district, but the costs of the elections for both would be pretty close. I assumed the entities with issues on the balots all shared the costs of an election though. They probably could have saved themselves some $$$$$$$
Let's see 11/3/09 is the first Tuesday in Nov, which is more of a traditional date that would be on most peoples radar that it is election time and might trigger a "I wonder what we might be voting on this election ?" Rather that August when people are pre-occupied with summer activities, vacations. I don't think election issues in August. I don't know, you tell me what a difference 3 months would make. I'm sure there are talking points for moving it up, like we want to take advantage of cheaper interest on the bonds or we can take action earlier than waiting till Nov. But it usually boils down there's statistical data a special election low voter turnout gives a higher % of passage.
Possibly, but it would still be a one issue ballot and it would delay collection of the new tax, if passed, by 3 more months, reducing the collection from 3/4 of a year to 1/2 and delaying any new hires. But that might make some happy. What was the local turnout for the national election in 11/4/08? In 1995 (only off year I found)Jackson Co. had an 18.6% turnout while Kansas City had 13.2%. Interesting in 1994 an August election Jackson County had a turnout of 30.1% and Kansas City ha a 28.2%., both higher than the'95 Nov. election I don't know what either ballot contained, but certainly not any national issue..
If the Ex gave this issue as much ink as we have,
we might have a turn out??????????
Come on Steve, I don't care how they vote just start telling people to VOTE????
Ink is cheap, get out the vote.............
At some point in time prior to the election I will have a letter to the editor on the subject. It has already been sent and acknowledged. Maybe that will stir some interest.
Glad somebody else is writing in on this issue (even if you're on the other side of it)!
I heard through the grapevine that the attendance at this last Tuesday's public meeting on it was only one person! And, whaddaya know, the City Manager showed up to that one!
I could have told them that turnout at that one would be too low. It had only been like 4-5 days since I got the news that they were setting up those four public meetings. That's not much time to get the word out.
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The apathy that we deal with is just appalling…But the future worries me even more?
I’ve got one foot in the grave and Civil is NO teenager so where will we be in a year or two???
No one cares, NO one reads the paper, NO one votes????
Scares ME…………..
Agreed!
And the ones who vote seem to vote as if they're watching American idol: It's all about the hair and how smooth the candidate's speech is.
But what's driving me nuts today is that we can't seem to do anything about the way the ones we already have in their (at the Federal level) vote! It amazes me how many of them vote AGAINST the desires of their constituents and then, when called on it, make excuses!
I think our elected representatives have taken the attitude " you elected me, now I can do as I please." I don't know about you, but I have written Cleaver, McCaskill and Bond on several occasions about my concerns. Usually what I get back in return is a form letter explaining the bill I am objecting to. I seriously doubt that any of them even saw my letter. It most likely stopped at an aides desk. What can we do? Put in a new bunch at every opportunity. Maybe if we kick them out often enough somebody will get the idea and listen if they want to keep their job. Probably not, but its something.
it's lke what Obama said about the first month in Office, "Hey guys we won"...........
he didn't say deal with it, ? BUT?????